Hi folks, I’m Bob Schrupp physical therapist, Brad Heineck physical therapist, Together we are the most famous physical therapists on the internet, in our opinion of course Today Brad, we’re gonna talk about how to manage chronic pain via natural methods We’re doing this in cooperation with iherb.com which by the way brings up the first question by the way is it I herb or I herb Yeah, well that’s a good question. H is silent on herbs right? I think so. I’m not an English major Bob so I really cannot be sure. It’s very evident that you’re not You know we could get some information. By the way if you are new to our channel Please take a second to subscribe to us, we provide videos on how to stay healthy, fit, pain free and we upload every day And also go over to Facebook and “like” us because we’d like to be liked, there you go. There’s three things we like about and one of them. 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We have a lot of patients with chronic pain and with the opioid crisis it really is important that we learn how to manage chronic pain without high-power medications. The opioids that can lead to all kinds of problems, not only for the individual, but family members It’s just it’s going rampant. Without getting into it too much, my family’s been touched by this a little bit, my mother-in-law and she’s off now, but she became dependent on opioids after a knee surgery. And for therapists that’s what we do, we teach you how to manage your pain without that and this is just one of the options You know cold packs hot packs stretching, body positioning, etc, and this is another natural What I like to look at it Brad is like we’re giving people tools, and the more tools we can give them, the easier it is gonna be for them to manage their pain And here we got some tools right here We asked for these, we went and looked on their website and we picked out some of the things that we like to use with patients and there’s three categories here. We’ve got the pain relieving patches. We got some homeopathic tablets and then we have the balms and the creams and the topical ointments So we’re not going to talk about these today. We’re gonna do another video on these So we’re just gonna talk about these three here, so this has been our experience with it. One thing I think you’re gonna find out with these Brad is that everybody kind of reacts to these differently, for sure, because now I didn’t get as much out of the Bengay one, but you’re doing better with the Bengay one, right for sure and the other thing I want to say about all three is that they all stick very well So you’re saying the patch sticks to your skin well. You don’t have to worry about it falling off. No in fact I’m gonna put one on right now. This is the tiger balm one, actually if you don’t mind helping me Brad. I’m gonna A lot of times tape sticks to itself you can’t get it apart again Well this one you can yeah, it’s like duct tape if you ever fold it over, Put it this way, would you yeah, it will pull a little bit of hair off What I did with this is I actually put it over my knee I wanted to put it over a joint that bends a lot and I put a Bengay one on my knee and the Tiger balm on my knee, and I actually could work out with it Brad, I did squats I knelt on it So and as you found out Brad when you put these on do they start off very very cool And then it takes a while for them to activate sure The bengay took longer than the tiger balm. The one that kicked in the quickest And I’m not sure if we’re gonna say this right: Salonpas Salonpas. Oh yeah, Loni. What’s that mean? Do you know what it means? Oh? Oh They use it in the Philippines, look at this, we got an endorsement for it. Well anyway I put this, these are smaller, so let’s go over the sizes Brad. The Bengay one is 4×8 No, it’s 3.9. x 7.9 That TigerBalm, but this is pretty close close the same because this one’s 4×8 this one’s almost 4×8 and these are 2.75 x 1.75, so there are a lot smaller but man, they got kick I’ll tell ya if you’re gonna use something for your neck or for a smaller joint like a wrist Yeah, I would recommend say it again, Lonnie Salonpas. Because one they kick in right away and two they They work, very very well, okay, but they did not work well, they’re too small for my back I put it on my back and I could already hardly feel, so this one’s really kicking in now, I can start to feel it already So you feel that cold sensation, yeah and it’s almost even tingly a little bit and warm sensation But what I liked about this one, I know I’m skipping around But the Tiger Balm one is I had it on my knee And I wanted to try it on my back, so I took the same one which they probably don’t recommend and I put it on my back. I still felt some left over from my knee, some residual yeah, I felt that on my back, so if you’re looking for a larger one I’d go with either the Bengay one or the Tiger Balm Brad likes the Bengay one more, I like the tiger balm one. If you’re looking for a small one, this is the home run Sixty patches you get in this too by the way I got costs hold on just a minute. You know I looked on their site Salonpas, that was $13.40 so it was more, but you get 60 for $13.40 yeah, that’s a good price. The tiger balm is $7.30 so you’re gonna get 4 treatments, so less than 2 bucks for treatment and this is $8.50 for the Bengay Around two bucks per treatment, you know and the thing with this is What I like about these Brad is you put them on and then you can maybe it’s gonna allow you to move a little bit more and generally movement helps decrease chronic pain Right, I think these things are just perfect for the arthritic knee, where surgery is not an option for whatever reason and they don’t want to go to the opioids And they want something, I’m amazed at how well they stretch I’ve got this Bengay when I’ve got Morton’s neuroma when I wear these shoes it always kicks in Because the bed of the shoe is just not so good, so he’s got this wrapped around his foot right now And it feels great no and ‘ve got this one on my other foot and for me I’m responding better to this Interesting because I did not, it’s really different chemistry I would also talk about, there are some precautions, you want to make sure it’s a clean dry area that you’re putting on, obviously no sores or open sores Avoid contact with your eyes, so even when you’re touching it, don’t touch your eyes afterwards or in your mouth or yeah mucous membranes, nose, mouth, anything like that We know this because we see a lot of pain patches on people, in our patients You can’t put a heating pad over it or hot pack over it And don’t put a bandage over it They said don’t wrap a bandage over it, if you already have a prescription pain patch don’t mix these up with that either, which most people wouldn’t but earlier I wanted to clarify that and I think the length of time that you can have them on vary Some of them were four hours, like I said on the one I took it off I still felt it for a couple hours after that so obviously the medication is going through there So really a good option for if you’re dealing with chronic pain Or even acute pain if you’re trying to deal with it, certainly better than taking medication if you can avoid it, anything else you want to say Brad? no I just think it’s a good option. It’s not real costly, you have nothing to lose and everything to gain all right We’ll leave it at that. Thanks.