Hallucinogen persisting perception disorder,
or HPPD, is a disorder characterized by visual phenomena that appear following drug use. While “hallucinogen” is in the name and psychedelics
are the most frequently encountered, other drugs have been implicated. It often occurs in people with no preexisting
psychological issues. Although a personal or family background of
psychiatric problems might be a risk factor. The symptoms can be distressing, which is
a key part of the official HPPD diagnosis, but the disorder is distinct from psychosis. People normally understand the visual distortions
are not reflective of reality. For this reason, we can treat HPPD as a perceptual
issue, albeit one frequently found in people with comorbid psychiatric problems. A substantial portion of those affected have
a spontaneous disappearance of symptoms within a year. The symptoms may eventually dissipate in other
cases, but it can be a very persistent issue for some people. Multiple definitions have been used over the
years. As it currently stands, a useful one for the
sake of diagnosis is what’s found in the DSM-5, which is a diagnostic manual for mental health
professionals. The DSM-5 lays out three criteria: First, there must be a reexperiencing of one
or more perceptual symptoms associated with hallucinogens after use has ended. Second, those symptoms must cause clinically
significant distress or impairment in social, occupational, or other important areas of
functioning. And third, the symptoms can’t be from a medical
condition (such as epilepsy) or be better accounted for by another mental disorder,
such as delirium, dementia, or schizophrenia. There are some difficulties that exist in
the area of diagnosis. HPPD-like symptoms can come from a number
of other sources, including psychosis, brain tumors, and seizures. The disorder also occurs in relatively few
people, so there’s a lack of good information. Basically all of the data comes from individual
case reports, some case series, and some open-label treatment trials. Since there’s a bit of variation in the symptoms,
triggers, and causal drugs, it’s possible not all cases can actually be grouped in the
same exact disorder. But we’re currently stuck with the single
HPPD diagnosis due to an incomplete understanding of the condition. The onset varies. For some, it occurs right after an experience. The drug effect ends, and the visual changes
are immediately present. For others, the problems set in days after
the drug experience. Having the symptoms appear many weeks or months
later, like some people report, is harder to connect to the drug. Also, some people only report HPPD after extensive
drug use. These individuals have taken psychedelics
many previous times without issue. There’s a high rate of other drug use often
present in this group, which complicates the situation. Whether there are mechanistic differences
between HPPD that arises after minimal or extensive drug use isn’t clear. It’s important to understand what HPPD is
not. Visual floaters, which have a basis in the
eye and occur in people with no relevant drug use history, aren’t the same as HPPD. Having the condition could, however, lead
to noticing eye floaters more. Simple visual changes like seeing bright spots
in a dark room or having a visual disturbance after viewing a bright light also aren’t HPPD. “Flashbacks” are more complicated. It’s a difficult term to use since multiple
definitions have been applied to it over the years. It is sometimes used to describe episodic
experiences that are very psychedelic-like and nearly the same as being on a psychedelic. These cases seem to be rare and they can also
come from traumatic events not connected to psychedelics. In the way I use the term, flashbacks are
distinct from HPPD because the effects extend beyond the visual component and may even be
positive. There are a few categories we can place visual
effects associated with psychedelics into. The first would be “flashbacks.” Like I said, these are short-lived periods
of hallucinogen-like activity. Sometimes they’re distressing, but often they’re
neutral or positive. A lot of people view them as a “free trip”
or a moment of nostalgic psychedelia. The second is HPPD Intermittent. Individuals with this experience HPPD in the
form of episodes. They either have no or relatively minor constantly
present symptoms. This condition doesn’t cause distress or impairment
in all cases, but those are necessary factors for the current diagnosis. And the third is HPPD Ongoing. In this case, visual phenomena are always
present, although they can still flare up in response to triggers. There’s a high rate of co-occurring problems
in both HPPD cases, such as depersonalization, derealization, anxiety, panic, and depression. Some of the common symptoms are visual snow,
trailing, halos, positive afterimages, altered color intensity, perceived movement of objects,
micropsia, and macropsia. The intensity of these effects differs. Those with diagnosable HPPD tend to have pretty
intense distortions, while other people may only have a mild case that doesn’t lead to
a diagnosis. An example of the impact of the disorder can
be found in a survey involving 19 people. All 19 reported visual snow. Most of them reported anxiety while on the
drug, typically a psychedelic, that they believed was responsible. For 12 respondents, the effects began within
24 hours of the drug experience. Everyone reported symptoms that didn’t actually
match the drug effects. Some of the common symptoms were head pressure,
ghosted afterimages when looking at text, movement of stationary objects, trails, and
concentration difficulties. They generally reported cannabis made their
symptoms worse, while sedatives were helpful. LSD is clearly the drug most often associated
with HPPD in published papers. There are also some reports involving cannabis,
MDMA, psilocin, and other psychedelics. However, we have some anecdotal evidence suggesting
phenethylamines like those from the 2C series and NBOMe series could lead to HPPD at a greater
tate. But this doesn’t come across in the literature
due to relatively low use rates and shorter histories. Whether or not they actually cause HPPD more
often isn’t known. The most we know right now is that it appears
all psychedelics come with some potential to trigger the disorder. An interesting aspect of the condition is
that there may be similarities to tinnitus, visual snow, and migraine auras. They could potentially have some sort of related
mechanism. Although they’re certainly different in their
presentation. The first cases were reported in the 1950s
and 1960s. Flashbacks were initially the most discussed
issue. It took a little longer for more typical HPPD
cases to populate the literature. A diagnostic criteria was established in the
DSM-3 revised edition, published in 1987. It had the name “Posthallucinogen Perception
Disorder.” That would become Hallucinogen Persisting
Perception Disorder in the DSM-4. Much of the work in this area comes from Dr.
Henry David Abraham. He’s published papers on the topic and has
extensively discussed his professional experience. Abraham described instances of people reporting
something other than typical “flashbacks” while at Massachusetts General Hospital in
the 1970s. They complained of ongoing visual changes,
usually devoid of any emotional content. Auditory hallucinations were rare and the
majority of patients could distinguish their symptoms from reality. These were likely cases of what would now
be called HPPD. Abraham came up with a few possible mechanisms
in the 1980s and 1990s. He wondered if some form of LSD or psychedelic
toxicity was responsible for damaging or otherwise disrupting neurons in the visual system. He helped to hypothesize what is now the leading
view of the condition. Which is that disinhibition in visual processing
centers lead to the core symptoms. Some interesting bits of information from
Abraham are that, from his knowledge, up to 65% of patients have comorbid panic attacks
and 50% have depression. He also noted that his average patient has
seen 6 prior doctors, who’ve collectively shrugged their shoulders at the symptoms and
not provided a diagnosis. Currently, we still have a limited amount
of information to work with. HPPD is essentially an “orphan disease.” It impacts relatively few people and research
funding related to it can be hard to come by. We don’t know how common the disorder is. Two of the main problems are that its definition
has changed over time and other conditions could present similarly to HPPD. It’s quite possible HPPD is underreported
due to people not visiting physicians and due to physicians not recognizing a person
has the condition. Some evidence suggests using a psychedelic
in a controlled setting reduces the chance of problems, though this still needs to be
verified. Information from 44 LSD and mescaline investigators
was collected around 1960. The investigators had collectively given psychedelics
to 5000 people, both psychiatric patients and healthy volunteers. Only 4 cases of “fleeting afterimages” were
reported in the mescaline users. It doesn’t appear any participants given LSD
reported persistent visual changes. Separate data covering 500 Navajo members
of the Native American Church didn’t show any clear instances of HPPD despite significant
peyote use. More recently, a web-based survey from Matthew
Baggott and others found HPPD-like symptoms in 4.1% of 2,679 people, coming out to 107
people. Those are the ones who reported psychedelic-related
visual changes and considered seeking professional help. 16 had actually sought help and 2 were diagnosed
with HPPD. Other data has suggested up to 40 or 50% of
psychedelic users could experience some sort of visual phenomena at some point. But usually the effects are short-lived, not
distressing, and aren’t as severe as in HPPD. At the end of the day, we don’t know the prevalence,
but it appears the majority of people never develop clinically relevant HPPD. There are no official risk factors for developing
HPPD. Though we have some reason to believe a few
might exist. They include the number of drug exposures,
taking drugs without a good set or setting, and having a personal or family psychiatric
history. An uncontrolled setting may raise the chance
of stress during the experience, which could be correlated with HPPD. This is primarily just speculation, but the
disorder could also be more common among those who have preexisting visual snow, tinnitus,
or visual migraine aura. There’s a hypothetical genetic component,
but that has yet to be explored. A few groups of triggers have been established. Environmental ones include transitioning from
dark to light and light to dark. Episodes are also sometimes triggered by things
associated with a hallucinogen experience, such as music, the time of day, and locations. Personal triggers like psychological stress
and being tired are common. People also report the symptoms increase when
you’re focusing on them or worrying about the condition. Drug triggers include psychedelics, cannabis,
stimulants, and alcohol. Both stimulants and alcohol have been reported
to worsen or help the symptoms depending on the person. And medication triggers include risperidone,
SSRIs, and phenothiazine antipsychotics. Many case reports exist of risperidone exacerbating
the visual symptoms as well as panic. And SSRIs like sertraline have been helpful
in some cases and negative in others. The over-arching hypothesis is that HPPD comes
from a disturbance in visual processing. The disturbance causes visual symptoms that
are usually distinct from psychedelic effects. It’s believed the problem occurs at a low-level
in the visual system, allowing more “noise” to make its way to higher visual centers and
into perception. Given the connection to visual processing,
a lot of the focus is on the occipital lobe and the Lateral Geniculate Nucleus, located
in the thalamus. A disruption in these areas could impact the
way visual signals pass through the brain. More activity could then be noticed and interpreted. The primary visual cortex, V1, is an attractive
target since activity in this area could generate the visual phenomena. Neuronal activity might continue beyond the
stimulus due to an alteration in inhibitorty and excitatory activity. However, the presence of non-visual sensory
effects, depersonalization, and derealization suggest the mechanism may be more complex. A popular hypothesis is that a drug may lead
to the dysfunction of cortical serotonergic neurons with GABA-ergic outputs. EEG research has shown evidence of greater
occipital activity, which is consistent with the idea of disinhibition. Other research looking at the impact of HPPD
and psychedelic use sheds some light on how the visual cortex might be affected. A test for distinguishing between colors showed
that non-psychedelic-using controls performed best, LSD users scored in the middle, and
the HPPD group scored worst. Another test looking at the ability to notice
a light flicker was conducted. A light was strobed on and off. The test was used to see how well the subjects
could notice the strobing instead of just interpreting the light as constantly on. The control group performed best, LSD users
were in the middle, and the HPPD group was worst. This suggests HPPD and even just heavy psychedelic
use could lead to visual stimuli triggering a prolonged response in the brain. More research needs to be done to back up
these results. Lastly, anxiety and attention appear to modulate
sensitivity in low-level visual processing. These findings could explain the efficacy
of benzodiazepines and the beneficial impact of focusing on other tasks. No clear guidelines exist for treating HPPD. We’re mainly working with some open-label
trials, case reports, and anecdotes. The non-drug recommendations include stress
reduction and engaging in things that’ll leave you less focused on your symptoms. Psychotherapy has sometimes been helpful,
as has the use of tinted glasses. For medication, there are reports of success
with benzodiazepines, clonidine, naltrexone, lamotrigine, levetiracetam, and SSRIs. A case series involving clonazepam demonstrated
efficacy. 14 patients with HPPD and anxiety who believed
their symptoms came from LSD received 2 mg of clonazepam per day. It was adminstered for two months and then
gradually discontinued. The result was significant reductions in anxious
mood, tension, and insomnia. There were also significant improvements in
the visual disturbances. The benefits persisted even after treatment
ended. A combination of tolcapone and carbidopa/levodopa
was tested in 20 people. Results from this trial were presented in
2012. The combination led to a beneficial response
in a third of patients, with little response in the rest. This was only an open-label trial, so more
research is needed. Overall, there are some trends that have been
seen in treatment. Benzodiazepines appear helpful for many people. They usually don’t eliminate the symptoms,
but they can reduce their intensity and make them manageable. The benefits may come from reducing anxiety
as well as from a direct effect on visual processing. More variable responses exist with SSRIs. Evidence suggests that if people can get through
the adjustment period, during which the symptoms may increase, SSRIs might be helpful. But there are cases where it just doesn’t
appear SSRIs are useful. And antipsychotics, such as risperidone, have
generally been found to be ineffective or to have a negative impact. If you have symptoms of HPPD, you should stop
using any drugs, especially psychedelics and cannabis. Visiting a physician is wise if the symptoms
cause impairment or distress. Hopefully you can then move towards ruling
out other possibilities and receiving an accurate diagnosis. With a diagnosis, you may benefit from medication
as well as stress reduction and psychotherapy.
You can find more information about HPPD as well as references on the TDC website: https://thedrugclassroom.com/video/hallucinogen-persisting-perception-disorder-hppd/
If you have any questions, feel free to ask.
I think almost everybody have floaters when they look to sky or little static when in dark room. But its not bothering them.
Took a tab during my school summer holidays, it ended up being a 150 mg tab, anyway it eventually started hitting me pretty hard and was very intense, little did i know it was going to get to 3 times as intense as it already was, many of you won't believe this but at the time i was outside with 3 friends and some random cat came along, i start staring at the cat and what it turned into was one of them buddist monks i think theyre called, it had an actual human but cat face at the same time and was as if i could tell what it was thinking, it litterally was a human and at that point i was almost convinced i was living in a fake reality but anyway, a few more hours down the line we decided to go back to my house where it wasnt as intense, i was watching the show impracticle jokers and was seeing 4 of everything, it was pretty amusing but i realised that this trip wasn't ending for atleast another 6 hours also at the time it was 11 and 2 of my friends decided to leave and one stayed with me, he fell asleep at like 12 o clock , didnt want him to stay up all night trip sitting me anyway so i start banging some tunes mostly from the uk drill scence and felt fucking amazing until it got to the point where it was now half2 inthe morning a i was still tripping pretty hard, just thought "Oh well i guess it was a very strong tab so i was sort of ok with it and started smoking cigarette after cigarette, i was sort of bored of the music at that point anyway heres where i started to try to go to sleep but it never worked so i just sat there for another 4 hours and realised something was up it must have been 11 hours from when it first hit me and was still half as intense, i sit there until 10am when my friend wakes up and i tell him what the fuck im currently going threw and what i have been going threw while he was asleep, he gave me one of them sarcastic " oh really"s obviously because at this point i had been tripping for 15 hours so anyway he went back to his house and i carried on tripping all day because i never went to sleep, inthe end i went to sleep at 1 in the morning and had been tripping balls for anywhere from 35-38 i think and i knew i had fucked my head up so anyway i wake up the next day with bad hppd iwas still slightly tripping, i thought it would wear off within a week but now it's been 6 months and everytime i smoke weed or take molly or just anything, im on acid again, anyway thats my story, sorry for putting litterally no full stops xD
I usually get thease weird hallucinations for example walls disappearing completely and I am like in this glass room in completely white space or my painting on the wall starts twisting and spinning and some times it gets detached completely from the wall and starts flying towards me. All of thease hallucinations does not bother me at all because they only happen in my head and I know it isn't actually happening. and it's been months sinse I've even touched any kind of psychedelics…(also I only see thease inside my apartment where I have tripped countless times and not anywhere else) Are thease symptoms of Hppd or just my confused brain not knowing what's possible or real and what's not?
i did mdma 5 times in one month and saw shit move after for months and saw black lines flying around everywhere
well, readying all the comments makes me wonder why would i ever want to take LSD, if i might suffer for years or decades…
Every time I open my eyes and look around in the dark everything flickers, melts, and moves like gets super warped and wavy it’s fucking scary sometimes 🙁
Hppd it’s self isn’t bad just the anxiety panic attacks and depersonalization that comes with it is hell for me
I think my gf retracted this a couple years ago when she did lcd but she seems more schizophrenia then anything anyone can please help? I don't want to let her go through it alone but its really hard for me to understand. Its like she loses train of thought so easily and just spaces out
EYY, anyone else in the HPPD club?
The DMT panda can on that sheet at 11:55 is spot on. That’s what originally brought me to watch the video.
But those mushrooms at 12:50! Plus it's awesome to randomly get free trips that only last a few seconds ✨😁
can HPPD come while smoking tobacco??? beacause when i smoke i have lots of bright dots everywhere. when i asked if my friends have same effect they sayd that they dont have it.
I had it for around a year after months of heavy lsd use. The worst part is I wondering whether it’s HPPD or you triggered something deep inside your mind. There were any debilitating effects for me other than the words floating off of a page/screen I was trying to read. Don’t be a dumbass like I was, have respect for psychedelics. Use them as a tool, not just to get high.
I rolled on MDMA and after this roll I began getting symptoms of hppd. I told myself yep that's my last roll, but I realized it wasn't the mdma that was giving me hppd. A week prior I read of the benefits of supplementing with magnesium, so I bought myself over the counter magnesium. I took for a week, but it brought me undesired effects. I began getting extremely drowsy and felt like I was seeing things. After the mdma these symptoms got worse and I knew I needed to get off of them even if it was only for a week. The mental stress it brought me was tough , but I knew I needed to stop. It's better to eat foods rich vitamins and minerals.
I've had this for about a month after LSA. Morning glory seeds crazy man
What about chronic use of dilerients like diphenhydrame aka sleep tablets that I used repeatedly been over a year since my last trip and still see and feel things that are not there
30:15 "having the condition could lead to noticing eye floaters more" that's strange.. eye floaters are literally things in the eye itself (like proteins) not a hallucination of some sort.
I like getting hppd, it makes smoking weed a little more fun a week or 2 after doing shroomies
Dph……
Isn't hppd also a serotonin syndrome and if the symptoms last longer than usual you need to seek help due to its potential to kill
I had persisting visual hallucinations for a about a year after the first time I used marijuana, it was a lot of weed and I also believe it may have contained other drugs. They would come at random times and it would feel as if I was high but would only last for several minutes to an hour. It wasnt bothersome and was interesting for the most part except for this one time when I had to go to the ER because it was so strong I was afraid it was something else, they ended up conducting a bunch of different tests and exams on me and all of them came back healthy and normal which led me to conclude it must be a psychological thing (I didnt know about HPPD or persisting hallucinations at the time). Its been several years since then and I've tried other drugs including psychedelics and I have not had the same issue since then. Must be the brain getting confused from time to time and resorting to the neural pathways that were present when one is high. The brain is a very complex organ.
It will go away through time. Or if you take a comfortable dose
Ever since my last mushroom trip I can see like tv static in my vision permanently :/
hasn’t gone away since my first acid breakthrough it’s kinda cool but it’s just a constant reminder of my poor decisions with drugs
I have light static and pretty noticable tracers
It's not hppd I think but since I remember I've always seen static in my whole field of view
It seems to me psychedelic substances may break the brain for an unknown period of time, but I've never used any so I'm talking outta my ass
I get tracers and snow
any known connection to scintillating scotoma?
Permafried is another word for this
I see slight trails on moving objects but it doesn't bug me really. If I stare at something long enough itll kinda slowly morph around or breathe in one spot, I also see weird light after images which I've always seen but Idk. Along with random "light reflections" sorta next to something if that makes sense. I did L like a month ago but I dunno if I have hppd or what.
I’ve had HPPD with weed, is this common?
I think I had mild HPPD, but the symptoms subsided about a year or so after I stopped using drugs. From my level of understanding, it seems to me like I clearly have it, but I'm not a professional. My psychiatrist said he thinks so too but didn't know enough about HPPD to diagnose me. The visual hallucinations never bothered me, they were just kinda like faint patterns in the background that were similar to frequent patterns I'd see on trips. The auditory hallucinations did bother me though, to a certain extent. I would often hear a pulsating sound, but it easily morphed into other things. I'd hear distant voices, too quiet to understand the words. The hallucination in itself wasn't directly linked with paranoia and anxiety, it was just another sound, but it was much harder to distinguish from reality. It didn't bother me for a while, but eventually I started getting paranoid about the neighbors talking about calling the police on me (which was entirely irrational from an outside view). Not sure how to end this comment
Why the fuck is YouTube suggesting this to me I'm scared now.
Just call it "flashbacks"….
I have this from LSD taken 25 years ago. I thought everyone got it. It's always there but not intrusive in my case. If I eat cake or a doughnut it becomes stronger, weird.
I had trails for about a week after my first really hard roll. Also felt like the world was full of love. Talk about a hallucination! 😛
Weed
I started to notice a lot of eye floaters after doing one of those lame legal high psychedelics.
I have an anxiety disorder and the symptoms they've described are a lot like what I've experienced. And I've also had visual snow, seen floaters and etc, but my anxiety makes me notice them more and I didn't even know I had it until I read into it which happened only because I was anxious… I think a lot of these patients just have some form of anxiety disorder brought on by psychedelic usage and realised the visual effects as anxiety makes you feel "hyper aware" and constantly checking and questioning yourself.
Stimulants HELPING HPPD?! That's surprising to me, though it probably shouldn't be because there are two sides to each coin. The worst perceptual ability I had was after being awake from Stimulants. Text I read had a unnervingly long shadow next to it. Enough for me to not want to risk experiencing tat again.
This could be me?
Hail Satan.
youre in denial of what reality looks like. reality is not a smooth, free flowing, completely diagrammable physical object that you can fully comprehend because you think you deserve to. its jagged and spazmatic random and most of all much larger than any one of us as individuals. persisting halucinations are most certainly a result of excess stimulation from led screens flashing bright colours at intense rates. blaming it all on the psychedelic drugs is completely bafflingly naive and detracts from the multiple number of other possibilities for persisting “halucinations” as you insist they are.
I think everyone wants to say they have HPPD but i think we should respect those who really have it from intense experiences. Just cause things look differently to you or you are just high on THC "yeah we good bro"
I have dosed L 8 times and mushrooms once and smoked a lot of weed during all of my trips. I've always had visual snown since a young age but following my 5th trip I began to see slow breathing and intense after images while staring at objects. I also have intense trails destinct from normal motion blur (multiple destinct sets of the trailing object instead of a smooth blur.) Weed definitely makes the symptoms much more intense however it isn't majorly effecting my daily life so i wouldn't call it a disorder, just a change in howni view the world
I took LSD a lot when I was younger, back in the late 80's and early 90's.. I am 100% positive that I had this going on for a few years after my last trip.
For instance, I had this thing where I could stare at square objects like pictures on the wall and they would begin to swing. I could make the picture flip completely around just by staring at it.
Of course, just in my minds eye. I would see trails that had color and ceiling fans that would turn into rainbow mermaids spinning very slow from the ceiling down.
This went on for about three years and stopped and it still hasn't happened since.
I’ve had this for about 2 years I think, I’ve had ~30 acid trips and 7 mushrooms trips, and 1 25i-nbomE experience, I think I know what’s to blame here
4aco-dmt my boys. But to be fair, not being sober from multiple more common things probably didnt help.
Is there somebody here, with hppd(snowvision-afterimages) that has been cured? By microdosing or other ways?
I've had it for 6 years now, it gets easier but was anxiety induced the first 6 months.
The DSM isn’t even worthy of wiping my ass. It’s all diet and biome related.
You don't come back? That sounds nice. Make life more interesting for me, throw some visual phenomena at me so I can make art out of it and become an artist.
I think HPPD is simply an opening of our filter. A "normal" state of consciousness should be similar to that of psychedelics, however we have closed our filters
I just thought it was normal lol jk. But no i get this for like a month after dropping
it's called acid flashback
i have this but its very very mild. i get some effects if i try to consentrate like when i was getting my glasses. i also can get them if im happy and im listening to music.
Did anybody notice the little green bug @5:35 getting ready to blast off after the first bite?
it can inhibit work as well as boost it, i find it be negetive in negetive working conditions for people that dont need that karma or way of living. Positive when gardening… in ways like… magic
After 200ug of LSD i've noticed how the visual snow got stronger (more noticable, i had this my entire life) eye floaters are definitely more visible, i see dizzles or "stars", but its not really noticable at all when im busy, oh and also ripples when looking at walls.
I would occasionally get trails when moving something close to my face, my hands for example. I also used to see what looked like static in the air, as if I could see the air currents
This is total bullshit. The fact that it is in the newest DSM is absurd. You might as well call it "psychosis/mania with someone who has abused hallucinogens or disassociatives". These "flashbacks" don't just pop out of nowhere. I have done absolutely ridiculous amounts of hallucinogens, NMDA antagonists, entactogens and opiates. Why does this not occur with any other forms of drugs? Remember now there is a very VERY high spectrum of chemicals and substances that are absolutely identified as hallucinogens but that wide spectrum doesn't matter although if it is morphine/codeine/heroin family it absolutely never happens ever EVER. Completely idiotic, you are better than this TDC! For years the myth was that "LSD stays in your spinal cord for years and, for completely random reasons, it decides to pop out and make you trip again". Don't take into account that the spinal cord might as well be the brain in terms of anatomy. I don't know why this angers me so much. Sorry for popping off like that OH WAIT OH SHIT I FEEL LIKE I AM ON PSILOCYBIN MUSHROOMS OUT OF ABSOLUTELY NOWHERE!!!!!!!
I have this i used to be scared but i started seeing it as im just looking at somthing from a different angle of perception and ive managed to control it with meditation and healthy eating since i havent experienced it in over 2 years i do think it need to be further studies though
I have this watery looking sheen over normally rough surfaces or when focusing hard on pretty much anything. Also infrequent (normally happen if I smoke) but quite terrifying visions, shadows running across doorways, people in my garden, saw my self as a lizard person in the mirror once? Etc.
I’ve had these effects ever since taking some oxy and accidentally getting high off gasoline. It’s been over a year now and I still feel some of these effects. It was worse before so I have hope that I’ll be normal again soon. I haven’t smoked weed ever since that day, and I feel like opioids and keeping busy helps.
Really interesting video. Fun fact: im from Brazil and i know a lot off people that drinks Ayahuasca every week, DMT is one off the strongest psychedelics that exists and these people consume in larges amount, and there isnt any case off HPPD with dmt, maybe is the controlled setting, but still, pretty curious.
Ever had a realisation and felt like you cant experience reality in reality, and the world is realer than what enters your eyes.
I got it for a couple months after a pretty intense mushroom trip. In my experience it only lasted for about 2-3 months and then drifted away slowly
I once ate four acids in fact, now all I see is Dallas for miles…
Why does it have to be distressing to be classified as hppd, what if u don’t mind it at all. I know for a fact I have had it since sophomore year of high school but certain aspects of it have gone away but overall I honestly enjoy having it, especially cause the manifestations of it that were somewhat annoying were the first to go after maybe two years. Ie: the most notable one I had was certain textures especially really small uniformed textures would throw off my depth perception like crazy. The bathroom stalls in my school were black walls covered with little semi spherical bumps each like the size of a centimeter in diameter, each with a little splotch of light right on top reflecting from the lights and because of that whenever I’d go take a piss or shit the stall walls appeared to be multi layered inward and the stalls would seem very small and it would seem like the walls were flickering in and out as my focus tried to fix onto the real depth. Also I’d get stuck in everything seeming two dimensional and feeling as if me and everything I saw were all smooshed down and more rarely stretched taller. Wish I could describe it better. Very weird feelings and perception but curiously enjoyable unless I were in football practice or something and it would fuck with my performance. Unfortunately that last one happened a ton in football, something about being on the large flat expanse of turf would get it going way more frequently
Anyone have tinnitus with their HPPD?
Visual snow is such a pain in the ass.
wish I had this condition, sounds great
I did about 30 tabs over the course of a month, went to juvie for a failed drug test for weed, and saw rainbow dots and watched everything move crazy like for 21 straight days
some people aren’t psychologically cool enough to appreciate tripping.
Ohhhh that's what that was…visual snow! I thought that it was ashes from a fire somewhere!
Most of the information in the DSM-V comes from case studies. That pretty much goes for the other versions as well. Psychology and Psychiatry aren't really a science in the traditional sense. Nobody really has any of these conditions like you have the flu. It's all a lot of guesswork really. I'm not saying that it's a worthless field or that the people that get diagnosed with any disorder aren't experiencing any distress, I'm just saying that there's a lot of nonsense in the field right now and we need to do a much better job with it.
This channel is a gold mine of information!
Guys did we always have really small tracers? Because now I don’t remember if we did or if I may have hppd lol.
I saw three of my friends and I was in a different room and I heard them talking 2 weeks after taking mdma it was the scariest thing I've ever experienced
I think its only anxiety like ptsd or ocd
Man i love it when im tryna read something about a condition i have and the letters keep moving, thanks hppd
I had it for about a year. It happened to me after I had an extremely intense mushroom and acid trip. Mostly it affected the way I looked at letters and numbers would do a slight waving pattern letter by letter throughout the word within a string of letters or numbers
Extensive use. and never ending Cannabis. its like the trips just kept mentally going. i do not recommend. it makes me wanna stop smoking but i still love smoking. sigh
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Background noise in neural signalling is the similarity you're looking for
Thank you 🙏
Thank God this video exists. After an awful lsd trip (super fake shit an one of the guys I was trippin with, who is not a nice person to be around in the first place, had an allergic reaction to something we were eating and we thought we would have to take him to the hospital and he almost died right in front of me in the bathtub while we're tripping!) I was seeing static patterns in everything for about 4 months and sometimes I still do and the association of the patterns to my bad trip felt like ptsd. Anytime I would be in certain lighting or around a similar environment to my bad trip it would restart all over again and I would see the patterns in everything and it made life so so so difficult. I stopped talking to anyone that did psychs after that so I never really got to relate to anyone on the matter so this video is very helpful. Bless you brutha❤
Zolpidem can cause this
I have it from abusing dxm and Benadryl as a teen. I had a counterflipping phase when I was 17, 4 years later I still have hppd. When I space out I get that classic dxm vision and sometimes things move or twitch like they do when you overdose on Benadryl to get high or trip. I've also done 3 Meo PCP, LSD and salvia but that was all after I already had symptoms that were directly related to DXM and benadryl. If anything it's fucking awesome I love being able to space out and just see shit move or bounce around like it does on DXM albeit a lot lighter. I always do have visual static but that part geniuenely does suck. Smoking weed triggers it hardcore for me.
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Good way to heal any brain problem is eating lambs brain from the butchers. Other good foods are liver, eggs, and kidneys. eaten raw or cooked in lard tallows or butter not vegetable oil.
We call them 'research chemicals', they are often sold as LSD. You can buy them online because new chemical combinations are illegal for a certain amount of time before they can make them illegal. In the Rainbow Gathering community it's been known that people dose their enemies with extremely large amount of acid which 'spins' someone out for life, destroying who they are and their ability to function.
If you have HPPD or any psych issues weeds and other mind altering substances are not recommended, it can make what you have worse without you even realizing it. You need a stable mine. Also those with HPPD can get on meds that calm your mind. Talk to a professional! You don't have to suffer.
I think I have some HPPD from my extensive Dextromethrophan abuse. Whenever i look around I still get splices from corners, just like when I would be tripping on DXM.
I have always described air like the static on a TV but now it’s more noticeable. Any time I smoke, faces do not look normal, it’s almost how they looked on acid. I get feelings in certain settings that takes me back to my really bad 3rd acid trip. I see colors getting brighter in certain areas. This is the only disorder I’ve found that describes everything that happens to be on a daily basis and I pretended it was normal and got use to it.
Ive had contrails for 2 years
Dpdr can be kinda tricky though, people who have a bad trip can get trauma from it and can experience dpdr, as well as low level stress can trigger dpdr, so the more weight people put on it that they THINK they might have HPPD, the more they’ll feel DPDR as its trying to protect them from the stress, careful to not confuse dpdr and hppd friends, you could just be traumatized from the experience as well as other things in your life, best of luck to you friends !
Some of these things either sound like
Astigmatism
DPDR
Trauma
Anxiety
And I feel like these are mistaken as visual disturbances when they could be normal eye visuals for some, I was one of them .
I've had HPPD-like symptoms since about 10 years before I even touched a psychedelic. It was strange when I first tried psilocybin and remarked to my friend ''wow… this what the walls are doing right now? I see that all the time just not this intensely''. Never figured out why this happens to me though, it's extremely consistent and never gets any worse or totally fades away. For some reason certain textures like sand, concrete and stuff like that will almost instantly start breathing, but more in a ''zooming in''-type of way. It's the 'light'-version of one of those youtube videos with the spirals that can make your walls breathe for a second or 20 after having stared at the centre of the screen during that video for a minute or two. It should be noted that I:
* Have occasional migraines (with aura)
* Don't really feel 'alive' at times (slightly disconnected/living my life like watching a movie without being really bothered by it)
* Don't get enthused nearly as easily as I did when I was a pre-teen (currently 29 years old)
* See visual snow in both light and dark settings. The more uniform the space I'm looking at is; the more intensely I can see the snow
* Have had tinnitus since being a teen
Nobody can explain the 'breathing' I see at times though, nor can they explain the fact that sometimes when I stare off at something, my entire vision 'darkens' to a very noticeable degree suddenly.
I took 2 tabs of lsd at 13 and have had vision snow, floaters, and tinnitus ever since.